1
00:00:26,630 --> 00:00:18,720
[Music]

2
00:00:31,230 --> 00:00:28,150
five

3
00:00:37,670 --> 00:00:36,549
[Music]

4
00:00:39,670 --> 00:00:37,680
um has

5
00:00:43,270 --> 00:00:39,680
these stigma of ufos hindered your

6
00:00:46,790 --> 00:00:45,830
no i don't think so i think that people

7
00:00:48,869 --> 00:00:46,800
are

8
00:00:51,430 --> 00:00:48,879
interested in the subject

9
00:00:53,350 --> 00:00:51,440
i think we've made a lot of progress

10
00:00:55,189 --> 00:00:53,360
and uh

11
00:00:57,350 --> 00:00:55,199
i think the work we've done

12
00:01:00,470 --> 00:00:57,360
where we've now determined it

13
00:01:02,389 --> 00:01:00,480
not 10 or 20 people have seen these

14
00:01:03,670 --> 00:01:02,399
kind of different flying objects but

15
00:01:04,630 --> 00:01:03,680
hundreds and hundreds of people have

16
00:01:06,230 --> 00:01:04,640
seen them

17
00:01:07,429 --> 00:01:06,240
i think the american people are

18
00:01:10,310 --> 00:01:07,439
interested

19
00:01:12,789 --> 00:01:10,320
and i think the more we study the more

20
00:01:14,230 --> 00:01:12,799
we don't know but the more we

21
00:01:16,630 --> 00:01:14,240
more we

22
00:01:18,070 --> 00:01:16,640
need to study more and more

23
00:01:19,190 --> 00:01:18,080
the more work we do on this the better

24
00:01:21,910 --> 00:01:19,200
off we are

25
00:01:27,510 --> 00:01:21,920
for all mankind

26
00:01:32,789 --> 00:01:29,109
do you think public hearings are the way

27
00:01:37,190 --> 00:01:35,270
well i think that that's one way forward

28
00:01:39,830 --> 00:01:37,200
i think that congress is headed in that

29
00:01:42,469 --> 00:01:39,840
direction i think that's a good idea

30
00:01:47,350 --> 00:01:43,429
he

31
00:01:49,429 --> 00:01:47,360
do a report on it

32
00:01:52,870 --> 00:01:49,439
but it can't be a one once and it's over

33
00:01:55,590 --> 00:01:52,880
it's got to be a ongoing process

34
00:01:58,870 --> 00:01:55,600
because it's something that

35
00:02:00,709 --> 00:01:58,880
we will learn more as time goes on

36
00:02:02,230 --> 00:02:00,719
it can't be ignored american people

37
00:02:03,990 --> 00:02:02,240
don't care about this

38
00:02:05,990 --> 00:02:04,000
i can go goes

39
00:02:07,990 --> 00:02:06,000
anyplace here in nevada

40
00:02:10,229 --> 00:02:08,000
any place else in the country and

41
00:02:11,350 --> 00:02:10,239
someone will say he's senator reid and i

42
00:02:13,750 --> 00:02:11,360
said yes

43
00:02:16,470 --> 00:02:13,760
say thanks for doing your work a lot of

44
00:02:17,270 --> 00:02:16,480
them say flying saucers i know what they

45
00:02:19,350 --> 00:02:17,280
mean

46
00:02:21,350 --> 00:02:19,360
identify flying objects

47
00:02:24,470 --> 00:02:21,360
so people are interested

48
00:02:29,990 --> 00:02:28,070
have you ever seen a flying saucer

49
00:02:35,270 --> 00:02:30,000
no

50
00:02:38,390 --> 00:02:36,390
um

51
00:02:40,229 --> 00:02:38,400
do you

52
00:02:43,509 --> 00:02:40,239
i guess what's the most impactful story

53
00:02:47,270 --> 00:02:43,519
you've ever heard regarding a encounter

54
00:02:51,430 --> 00:02:48,550
well there are lots of

55
00:02:53,430 --> 00:02:51,440
one we had very recently

56
00:02:55,110 --> 00:02:53,440
for the uss omaha

57
00:02:56,869 --> 00:02:55,120
for a large

58
00:02:58,550 --> 00:02:56,879
football shaped

59
00:03:01,990 --> 00:02:58,560
sphere

60
00:03:05,030 --> 00:03:03,509
battleship

61
00:03:07,270 --> 00:03:05,040
and it suddenly just plunges into the

62
00:03:10,229 --> 00:03:07,280
water it disappears

63
00:03:12,550 --> 00:03:10,239
so that's pretty stunningly

64
00:03:14,790 --> 00:03:12,560
stunningly interesting to me

65
00:03:16,710 --> 00:03:14,800
i don't know what it is what it was we

66
00:03:18,390 --> 00:03:16,720
don't know

67
00:03:21,750 --> 00:03:18,400
um there's

68
00:03:24,390 --> 00:03:21,760
there's kind of like a um

69
00:03:26,789 --> 00:03:24,400
a rumor of a triangle ufo coming out of

70
00:03:31,110 --> 00:03:26,799
the water if you've heard of that

71
00:03:36,149 --> 00:03:33,190
no i haven't seen it don't know i'm not

72
00:03:39,589 --> 00:03:36,159
poisoning but but the

73
00:03:41,270 --> 00:03:39,599
thing about that the omaha

74
00:03:42,630 --> 00:03:41,280
in the past we relied on people's

75
00:03:43,990 --> 00:03:42,640
eyesight

76
00:03:46,470 --> 00:03:44,000
memory

77
00:03:48,869 --> 00:03:46,480
but there we had sonar radar

78
00:03:50,630 --> 00:03:48,879
and other equipment on the

79
00:03:51,589 --> 00:03:50,640
ship itself so they have pictures of

80
00:03:54,229 --> 00:03:51,599
this

81
00:03:56,390 --> 00:03:54,239
uh football shaped sphere before it went

82
00:03:59,190 --> 00:03:56,400
into the water

83
00:04:03,270 --> 00:04:00,630
um

84
00:04:07,110 --> 00:04:03,280
you know i do a lot of research i found

85
00:04:08,869 --> 00:04:07,120
that we've had instances throughout

86
00:04:10,149 --> 00:04:08,879
the course of the last 80 years with

87
00:04:12,789 --> 00:04:10,159
sensitive

88
00:04:15,670 --> 00:04:12,799
um facilities of ours like the green

89
00:04:15,910 --> 00:04:15,680
fireballs back in the late 40s

90
00:04:17,189 --> 00:04:15,920
um

91
00:04:20,949 --> 00:04:17,199
[Music]

92
00:04:24,870 --> 00:04:20,959
what do you think drives the activity by

93
00:04:27,430 --> 00:04:24,880
our nuclear installations and just our

94
00:04:30,150 --> 00:04:27,440
warships

95
00:04:31,350 --> 00:04:30,160
we just don't know what why they're that

96
00:04:33,830 --> 00:04:31,360
why they're

97
00:04:36,070 --> 00:04:33,840
uh have these occurrences

98
00:04:37,030 --> 00:04:36,080
we do know that they have occurred

99
00:04:39,510 --> 00:04:37,040
uh

100
00:04:42,070 --> 00:04:39,520
it's well documented the one

101
00:04:44,230 --> 00:04:42,080
that sticks out in my mind is when one

102
00:04:45,350 --> 00:04:44,240
of the missile faces in the

103
00:04:47,030 --> 00:04:45,360
dakotas

104
00:04:48,950 --> 00:04:47,040
uh

105
00:04:50,710 --> 00:04:48,960
these identified flying objects floating

106
00:04:52,310 --> 00:04:50,720
around outside

107
00:04:55,030 --> 00:04:52,320
and the

108
00:04:57,270 --> 00:04:55,040
communication system on the

109
00:04:58,790 --> 00:04:57,280
nuclear facility

110
00:05:01,350 --> 00:04:58,800
uh

111
00:05:02,790 --> 00:05:01,360
shut down it had to fire a

112
00:05:03,830 --> 00:05:02,800
rocket toward

113
00:05:05,350 --> 00:05:03,840
a

114
00:05:08,070 --> 00:05:05,360
soviet union they couldn't do it their

115
00:05:11,189 --> 00:05:08,080
equipment didn't work shut it out shut

116
00:05:13,270 --> 00:05:11,199
it off completely

117
00:05:15,110 --> 00:05:13,280
well

118
00:05:20,950 --> 00:05:15,120
um

119
00:05:26,070 --> 00:05:23,350
no i don't think i'm afraid i think it's

120
00:05:28,310 --> 00:05:26,080
a i'm glad we're looking into it i'm

121
00:05:29,430 --> 00:05:28,320
glad we're not trying to ignore it

122
00:05:31,029 --> 00:05:29,440
and uh

123
00:05:32,710 --> 00:05:31,039
at this stage we

124
00:05:33,909 --> 00:05:32,720
doesn't appear that there's anything

125
00:05:36,230 --> 00:05:33,919
anyone

126
00:05:37,590 --> 00:05:36,240
trying to do us a harm

127
00:05:40,390 --> 00:05:37,600
we just don't know what they're what

128
00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:40,400
these that's what we call unidentified

129
00:05:45,590 --> 00:05:42,720
flying encounters

130
00:05:47,830 --> 00:05:45,600
unlike blind objects we don't know when

131
00:05:52,230 --> 00:05:47,840
we identify them it'll be interesting to

132
00:05:55,189 --> 00:05:54,230
that's true yeah

133
00:05:56,870 --> 00:05:55,199
um

134
00:05:59,749 --> 00:05:56,880
let me change the subject a little bit

135
00:06:00,710 --> 00:05:59,759
now uh you know this just as much as i

136
00:06:03,110 --> 00:06:00,720
um

137
00:06:06,950 --> 00:06:03,120
that there are certain

138
00:06:09,110 --> 00:06:06,960
factions seemingly within the dod that

139
00:06:10,550 --> 00:06:09,120
called these demons now if you make it

140
00:06:12,790 --> 00:06:10,560
to the dod

141
00:06:14,230 --> 00:06:12,800
you have to have some sort of sense and

142
00:06:16,150 --> 00:06:14,240
wits about you

143
00:06:18,629 --> 00:06:16,160
um why do you think

144
00:06:21,670 --> 00:06:18,639
those people think these

145
00:06:23,909 --> 00:06:21,680
are demons

146
00:06:25,909 --> 00:06:23,919
well i think you have to understand that

147
00:06:27,430 --> 00:06:25,919
in government there's a rule

148
00:06:29,029 --> 00:06:27,440
it hasn't been done before we're not

149
00:06:29,830 --> 00:06:29,039
going to do it now

150
00:06:30,710 --> 00:06:29,840
and

151
00:06:33,590 --> 00:06:30,720
that

152
00:06:34,950 --> 00:06:33,600
overlays much of what we do or don't do

153
00:06:37,749 --> 00:06:34,960
in government

154
00:06:40,710 --> 00:06:39,110
we just are not

155
00:06:42,309 --> 00:06:40,720
uh

156
00:06:44,390 --> 00:06:42,319
has been done before we're not going to

157
00:06:45,670 --> 00:06:44,400
look into it anymore

158
00:06:49,670 --> 00:06:45,680
that's changing

159
00:06:50,629 --> 00:06:49,680
slowly but surely that's good

160
00:06:54,070 --> 00:06:50,639
yeah

161
00:07:00,230 --> 00:06:55,990
so do you think they call them

162
00:07:02,870 --> 00:07:01,909
i think it's just the nickname they gave

163
00:07:04,070 --> 00:07:02,880
them

164
00:07:05,350 --> 00:07:04,080
used to

165
00:07:07,029 --> 00:07:05,360
build a credit

166
00:07:08,309 --> 00:07:07,039
sure

167
00:07:09,589 --> 00:07:08,319
understand

168
00:07:11,589 --> 00:07:09,599
yeah

169
00:07:13,670 --> 00:07:11,599
um

170
00:07:15,110 --> 00:07:13,680
man i i really appreciate you being here

171
00:07:16,629 --> 00:07:15,120
we've gone through so many technical

172
00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:16,639
difficulties but i think we're doing

173
00:07:19,589 --> 00:07:18,290
okay

174
00:07:21,749 --> 00:07:19,599
[Music]

175
00:07:23,749 --> 00:07:21,759
if you had some

176
00:07:27,430 --> 00:07:23,759
advice for

177
00:07:31,350 --> 00:07:29,350
as far as

178
00:07:34,790 --> 00:07:31,360
obtaining full disclosure

179
00:07:38,230 --> 00:07:36,469
i would go to

180
00:07:39,589 --> 00:07:38,240
town hall meetings held by members of

181
00:07:42,870 --> 00:07:39,599
congress

182
00:07:44,790 --> 00:07:42,880
ask craig to let pertinent questions

183
00:07:46,550 --> 00:07:44,800
write letters to my

184
00:07:47,909 --> 00:07:46,560
members of congress

185
00:07:49,350 --> 00:07:47,919
tell them that we want to know more

186
00:07:51,110 --> 00:07:49,360
what's going on

187
00:07:52,950 --> 00:07:51,120
i think just have to be

188
00:07:54,550 --> 00:07:52,960
uh let the

189
00:07:57,189 --> 00:07:54,560
people who hold

190
00:07:58,790 --> 00:07:57,199
these important federal jobs let them

191
00:08:01,589 --> 00:07:58,800
know that we care about what they're

192
00:08:03,990 --> 00:08:01,599
doing or not doing

193
00:08:08,170 --> 00:08:05,990
um you are the man

194
00:08:09,670 --> 00:08:08,180
by the way senator reid

195
00:08:14,550 --> 00:08:09,680
[Laughter]

196
00:08:19,510 --> 00:08:17,029
now you've faced so many challenges from

197
00:08:21,589 --> 00:08:19,520
being a boxer a cop and you know senate

198
00:08:22,950 --> 00:08:21,599
majority leader house whip

199
00:08:24,629 --> 00:08:22,960
um

200
00:08:28,070 --> 00:08:24,639
where does the

201
00:08:31,110 --> 00:08:28,080
ufo topic kind of land in in all the

202
00:08:33,909 --> 00:08:31,120
different hills you had to climb

203
00:08:35,029 --> 00:08:33,919
well my staff told me to stay away from

204
00:08:36,870 --> 00:08:35,039
all this

205
00:08:39,430 --> 00:08:36,880
but i was curious

206
00:08:41,909 --> 00:08:39,440
and i don't regret one minute

207
00:08:43,990 --> 00:08:41,919
or my efforts and trying to

208
00:08:45,110 --> 00:08:44,000
better understand what the ufos are all

209
00:08:46,790 --> 00:08:45,120
about

210
00:08:48,790 --> 00:08:46,800
i'm glad i did it

211
00:08:49,670 --> 00:08:48,800
and i think that

212
00:08:51,750 --> 00:08:49,680
the

213
00:08:52,829 --> 00:08:51,760
members of congress should understand

214
00:08:56,470 --> 00:08:52,839
that they will

215
00:08:58,710 --> 00:08:56,480
be performing legislative malpractice

216
00:09:00,070 --> 00:08:58,720
they don't proceed in this further

217
00:09:07,990 --> 00:09:00,080
yeah

218
00:09:10,630 --> 00:09:09,190
well they all

219
00:09:11,750 --> 00:09:10,640
they certainly all the american people

220
00:09:13,110 --> 00:09:11,760
honestly

221
00:09:15,430 --> 00:09:13,120
yeah and they

222
00:09:17,910 --> 00:09:15,440
all the american people the fact that

223
00:09:21,350 --> 00:09:17,920
they cannot ignore this if people are

224
00:09:22,630 --> 00:09:21,360
interested as well they should be

225
00:09:25,670 --> 00:09:22,640
yeah

226
00:09:32,230 --> 00:09:26,630
do you

227
00:09:32,550 --> 00:09:32,240
technology at the uaps

228
00:09:33,829 --> 00:09:32,560
um

229
00:09:36,310 --> 00:09:33,839
[Music]

230
00:09:38,150 --> 00:09:36,320
bettering our environment maybe climate

231
00:09:41,670 --> 00:09:38,160
change hunger

232
00:09:45,829 --> 00:09:43,350
i just don't know that

233
00:09:47,910 --> 00:09:45,839
the question is but on my

234
00:09:49,190 --> 00:09:47,920
the online mental i

235
00:09:50,630 --> 00:09:49,200
understand

236
00:09:52,949 --> 00:09:50,640
i hope so

237
00:09:53,910 --> 00:09:52,959
i don't have an answer to it sure no

238
00:09:55,670 --> 00:09:53,920
problem

239
00:09:57,590 --> 00:09:55,680
um

240
00:10:02,230 --> 00:09:57,600
yeah you weren't really into ufos before

241
00:10:07,590 --> 00:10:04,470
why he's the one that's standing on my

242
00:10:09,910 --> 00:10:07,600
curiosity yeah bob bigelow

243
00:10:11,350 --> 00:10:09,920
yeah all right

244
00:10:13,590 --> 00:10:11,360
and a long ways

245
00:10:14,710 --> 00:10:13,600
since that introduction

246
00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:14,720
yeah

247
00:10:18,949 --> 00:10:16,000
you know about

248
00:10:19,910 --> 00:10:18,959
him oops sorry about that go ahead oh

249
00:10:21,910 --> 00:10:19,920
yeah

250
00:10:23,990 --> 00:10:21,920
um you know senator bigelow is actually

251
00:10:25,829 --> 00:10:24,000
on 60 minutes and he said that they're

252
00:10:34,630 --> 00:10:25,839
walking among us

253
00:10:37,110 --> 00:10:34,640
the aliens he was on 60 minutes

254
00:10:38,949 --> 00:10:37,120
um saying that they're here you know on

255
00:10:41,509 --> 00:10:38,959
earth already

256
00:10:44,310 --> 00:10:41,519
um i don't i don't i don't i don't hold

257
00:10:47,030 --> 00:10:44,320
that opinion yeah i won't deny it but i

258
00:10:49,670 --> 00:10:47,040
i don't i don't know anything i don't

259
00:10:51,829 --> 00:10:49,680
know about that yeah that's okay gotta

260
00:10:52,630 --> 00:10:51,839
try it right

261
00:10:55,509 --> 00:10:52,640
yep

262
00:10:59,430 --> 00:10:57,590
now who's more difficult

263
00:11:01,269 --> 00:10:59,440
to

264
00:11:03,870 --> 00:11:01,279
uh work with

265
00:11:06,870 --> 00:11:03,880
bob bigelow or john boehner

266
00:11:08,550 --> 00:11:06,880
[Laughter]

267
00:11:11,269 --> 00:11:08,560
donald

268
00:11:13,430 --> 00:11:11,279
john boehner boehner yes oh they were

269
00:11:14,949 --> 00:11:13,440
yeah

270
00:11:16,630 --> 00:11:14,959
john boehner was a sweetheart he was

271
00:11:18,949 --> 00:11:16,640
easy to work with

272
00:11:21,269 --> 00:11:18,959
bob bigelow is somebody that's

273
00:11:22,310 --> 00:11:21,279
very very uh

274
00:11:24,310 --> 00:11:22,320
involved

275
00:11:26,470 --> 00:11:24,320
he certainly has put his money where his

276
00:11:29,190 --> 00:11:26,480
mouth is he's

277
00:11:31,670 --> 00:11:29,200
millions of dollars trying to figure out

278
00:11:32,630 --> 00:11:31,680
he's ended and divided flying objects

279
00:11:34,630 --> 00:11:32,640
yeah

280
00:11:36,069 --> 00:11:34,640
other paranormal things

281
00:11:38,550 --> 00:11:36,079
yeah

282
00:11:41,110 --> 00:11:38,560
um right now i just if you don't mind i

283
00:11:43,590 --> 00:11:41,120
would like to do i'd like to

284
00:11:46,470 --> 00:11:43,600
just kind of give you the floor to say

285
00:11:49,190 --> 00:11:46,480
anything that you want to say

286
00:11:51,350 --> 00:11:49,200
to either the ufo community politicians

287
00:11:53,269 --> 00:11:51,360
whatever this is your time to just get

288
00:11:54,550 --> 00:11:53,279
it out whatever it is give us the

289
00:11:57,350 --> 00:11:54,560
message

290
00:11:59,190 --> 00:11:57,360
um well i appreciate that you're being

291
00:12:00,629 --> 00:11:59,200
involved in this i think it's something

292
00:12:02,870 --> 00:12:00,639
the american people

293
00:12:03,750 --> 00:12:02,880
are entitled to know more about

294
00:12:04,790 --> 00:12:03,760
and

295
00:12:16,949 --> 00:12:04,800
i

296
00:12:19,190 --> 00:12:16,959
to do

297
00:12:20,710 --> 00:12:19,200
something to make sure that there's a

298
00:12:21,750 --> 00:12:20,720
constituents understand they're trying

299
00:12:23,030 --> 00:12:21,760
to face

300
00:12:24,550 --> 00:12:23,040
figure this out

301
00:12:26,870 --> 00:12:24,560
i repeat

302
00:12:28,790 --> 00:12:26,880
also up to the american people

303
00:12:30,790 --> 00:12:28,800
who are interested in this subject to

304
00:12:34,710 --> 00:12:30,800
make sure they put pressure on their

305
00:12:37,269 --> 00:12:34,720
members of congress to make to determine

306
00:12:41,670 --> 00:12:37,279
what they're doing to try to understand

307
00:12:48,150 --> 00:12:44,310
that's beautiful

308
00:12:51,509 --> 00:12:48,160
do you believe in an afterlife senator

309
00:12:55,430 --> 00:12:53,590
yeah me too

310
00:12:56,949 --> 00:12:55,440
um

311
00:12:59,190 --> 00:12:56,959
do you think this has anything to do

312
00:13:00,790 --> 00:12:59,200
with that

313
00:13:03,670 --> 00:13:00,800
i don't know

314
00:13:04,829 --> 00:13:03,680
what if you use your leg

315
00:13:13,430 --> 00:13:04,839
i just don't

316
00:13:17,750 --> 00:13:13,440
that's okay i understand

317
00:13:23,910 --> 00:13:21,990
what what would you like to see in this

318
00:13:25,670 --> 00:13:23,920
uap topic

319
00:13:28,310 --> 00:13:25,680
in the next

320
00:13:29,509 --> 00:13:28,320
three to five years

321
00:13:31,990 --> 00:13:29,519
well i think

322
00:13:33,750 --> 00:13:32,000
we need more people like you

323
00:13:34,870 --> 00:13:33,760
to understand that there's so much we

324
00:13:37,110 --> 00:13:34,880
don't know

325
00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:37,120
yeah and

326
00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:38,160
it's

327
00:13:42,230 --> 00:13:40,079
through programs like you're

328
00:13:44,629 --> 00:13:42,240
involved in it's gonna make it even

329
00:13:46,790 --> 00:13:44,639
better for people in the future to learn

330
00:13:50,949 --> 00:13:46,800
more about this

331
00:13:55,509 --> 00:13:53,110
well

332
00:13:57,509 --> 00:13:55,519
i'm just thankful that you know you took